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Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 16 Jul 2017, 08:05
by xhs05
To whom it may concern,

Hi!

Sorry that I've cleared the bug in my scripts. The error is because the input file for the LRWAKE element has all zero values. After generating the correct sdds file as input for LRWAKE, the scripts work properly.

Regards,
Haisheng

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 20:21
by michael_borland
Haisheng,

Thanks for letting us know.

--Michael

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 04:16
by Akhyani
Dear Michael and all,

I am studying short-range and long-range resistive wall effects in our ring. I used trwake element for calculating short-range effects and I saw the instability around 0.7 mA for single-bunch tracking in zero chromaticity. While using lrwake element for multi-bunch tracking, I expected that the instability threshold will be approximately 100 mA (number of bunches*0.7 mA), but I didn't see any instabilities even at 400 mA. I was wondering what is wrong in my simulations?
Any help would be appreciated. I attached the lattice, bunch and the wake file.

Bests,
--Mina

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 03:05
by Akhyani
Any ideas???

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 10:12
by lindberg
I wasn't able to parse the attached files, so I'm not completely sure what you're doing here. Based solely upon your description, though, it sounds like you are using the same wakefield file for short- and long-range stability simulations. However, since the instability mechanism is quite different in these two cases one does not expect the thresholds to be the same. What I think you should be doing is continuing to use your short-range wakefield in the TRWAKE element regardless of the number of bunches, and then add on an additional LRWAKE associated with whatever long-range forces you expect. In other words, TRWAKE only affects particles within a given bunch, while LRWAKE only acts on trailing bunches. Hope this helps...

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 10:23
by SDastan
Dear all,

In the instruction of the LRWAKE, there is something that I don't understand.
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Why the XFACTOR should multiply in longitudinal wake and ...? Is it true or it is just a mistype? Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Re: Simulation of transverse multi-bunch instability using the LRWAKE element

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 10:40
by michael_borland
Yes, those descriptions are all mixed up. XFACTOR, YFACTOR, and ZFACTOR multiply the horizontal, vertical, and longitudinal wakes, respectively.

Thanks for pointing out the error.

--Michael